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3 18:38:46 <stevenknight> hello
4 18:38:52 <GregNoel> Hi, stevenknight; Gary's not here yet
5 18:39:04 <stevenknight> okay
6 18:39:16 <stevenknight> bdbaddog said he'd probably show up but would be a little late too
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8 18:51:18 <bdbaddog> Good evening all!
9 18:52:05 <GregNoel> Hi, Bill; Steven's in and out; Gary's not here yet.
10 18:52:35 <bdbaddog> K.
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12 19:04:59 <garyo-home> Hi guys
13 19:05:10 <GregNoel> Hi, welcome; we're all here.
14 19:05:16 <garyo-home> great!
15 19:05:30 <garyo-home> Sorry I was late.
16 19:05:34 <GregNoel> np
17 19:06:27 <garyo-home> So, what's on the agenda this evening?
18 19:06:28 <GregNoel> Are we ready to go? I think 2294 is up.
19 19:07:40 <GregNoel> Gary, what did you find?
20 19:08:12 <garyo-home> I just tried his testcase on the scons.org machine, and it's reproducible.
21 19:08:25 <garyo-home> Didn't go beyond that.
22 19:08:19 <stevenknight> garyo-home: disk space is fine
23 19:08:40 <stevenknight> i checked our stats and we're well w/in limits now
24 19:09:03 <garyo-home> stevenknight: thanks.
25 19:08:48 <garyo-home> I could probably fix it, but I think unless it's a regression we should push it out, it's not that serious.
26 19:09:13 <GregNoel> I'm puzzled why no output shows up for me; that's really strange.
27 19:09:23 <GregNoel> but yes, I agree that it's a lower priority.
28 19:09:28 <garyo-home> Where did you try it?
29 19:09:34 <GregNoel> On my Mac.
30 19:10:00 <garyo-home> SConf is a black art to me.
31 19:10:07 <GregNoel> Ditto.
32 19:10:11 <stevenknight> Ditto ditto
33 19:10:25 <GregNoel> Why do you think I want to replace it?
34 19:10:34 <stevenknight> +1 to that
35 19:10:41 <garyo-home> But I bet it wouldn't be that hard to debug. Anyway, 2.1 or so, p3?
36 19:10:50 <GregNoel> 2.x p4
37 19:11:02 <garyo-home> fine w me too.
38 19:11:04 <stevenknight> 2.x p4 is good by me
39 19:11:16 <GregNoel> done. On to the schedule?
40 19:11:23 <stevenknight> 2294: 2.x p4 done
41 19:11:48 <garyo-home> ok, sounds fine.
42 19:11:53 <stevenknight> schedule first, then 2005q1?
43 19:12:02 <GregNoel> yes.
44 19:12:05 <GregNoel> Here's the schedule report card:
45 19:12:05 <GregNoel> The theory---
46 19:12:05 <GregNoel> 1.2 has been released, as of 21 December.
47 19:12:05 <GregNoel> A checkpoint was due 29 December.
48 19:12:05 <GregNoel> A checkpoint was due 12 January.
49 19:12:05 <GregNoel> A release candidate was due 19 January.
50 19:12:05 <GregNoel> 1.3 was due 26 January.
51 19:12:05 <GregNoel> We should be releasing checkpoints toward 2.0.
52 19:12:05 <GregNoel> The actuality---
53 19:12:05 <GregNoel> There is still one bug not yet cleared from 1.2.
54 19:12:05 <GregNoel> A checkpoint was released on 13 January.
55 19:12:05 <GregNoel> Another checkpoint is needed for VS revamp, yes?
56 19:12:05 <GregNoel> Some soak time (two weeks), then a release candidate.
57 19:12:06 <GregNoel> The official release of 1.3 a week later.
58 19:12:06 <GregNoel> Three weeks and change, minimum; odds are 1.3 will be in March.
59 19:12:06 <GregNoel> Comments?
60 19:12:27 <stevenknight> yes re: vs_revamp checkpoint
61 19:12:44 <stevenknight> GregNoel: sounds about right
62 19:13:02 <garyo-home> I'm in favor of vs_revamp asap.
63 19:13:08 <bdbaddog> +1
64 19:13:25 <stevenknight> i'm fixing broken tests as fast as i can
65 19:13:28 <garyo-home> Greg: what's the 1.2 uncleared bug?
66 19:13:52 <GregNoel> Belongs to Steven; didn't look beyond that.
67 19:14:38 <stevenknight> it's a scons.org bug re: adding scalable logos
68 19:14:38 <garyo-home> umm, it's 2058, scalable SVG logo for SCons.
69 19:14:46 <stevenknight> after making sure they're licensed appropriately
70 19:14:52 <stevenknight> i tried to reset it from 1.2 to 1.3 but couldn't
71 19:15:06 <stevenknight> i presume because of the scons.org component
72 19:15:20 <garyo-home> i see what you mean.
73 19:15:26 <garyo-home> ok, minor issue anyway.
74 19:15:29 <GregNoel> huh?
75 19:15:50 <garyo-home> there's no 1.3 in the dropdown list.
76 19:16:12 <GregNoel> scons.org shouldn't have a 1.2 component
77 19:16:27 <garyo-home> milestone you mean?
78 19:16:27 <stevenknight> not component, target milestone
79 19:16:39 <GregNoel> yes, milestone
80 19:16:45 <stevenknight> it has three in the dropdown: -research-, 1.2 and 1.x
81 19:16:46 <stevenknight> that's all
82 19:16:58 <GregNoel> There should only be research.
83 19:17:18 <GregNoel> It's not keyed to the core release cycle.
84 19:17:15 <garyo-home> so, just redirect it to research then?
85 19:17:23 <GregNoel> yes, make it research
86 19:17:23 <stevenknight> okay, i'll change it to -research-; that'll take care of that
87 19:17:32 <garyo-home> ok, back to schedule.
88 19:13:29 <stevenknight> anyone else have cycles?
89 19:13:44 <garyo-home> How can I help, Steven? I have vs2005 here.
90 19:14:42 <bdbaddog> I have some intra-build cycles.
91 19:14:43 <GregNoel> I'm trying to get the GSoC stuff in shape, also the TaskmasterNG, and then be ready to re-floor the sources; not many cycles for me, none to spare.
92 19:18:05 <garyo-home> Steven: we need to clear out some failing tests, right? I saw some that looked like regex expectation mismatches, maybe I can look at those.
93 19:18:08 <stevenknight> done
94 19:18:23 <stevenknight> garyo-home: that sounds good
95 19:18:46 <stevenknight> probably the most help right now is to at least check out vs_revamp
96 19:18:56 <stevenknight> and run all the tests on any Windows system available
97 19:18:59 <garyo-home> Are those the main hurdles to getting vs_revamp in?
98 19:19:08 <stevenknight> that and doc
99 19:19:13 <bdbaddog> ok. any special setups needed to do that, just qmtest right?
100 19:19:20 <stevenknight> and some tests that should be written, but we can probably let that slide
101 19:19:30 <stevenknight> you don't even absolutely have to have qmtest
102 19:19:30 <GregNoel> you don't even need QMTest
103 19:19:40 <stevenknight> runtest.py knows how to fall back and execute the tests without it
104 19:19:52 <bdbaddog> ok, but runs better with qmtest?
105 19:19:51 <stevenknight> QMTest is actually another thing I wouldn't mind getting rid of
106 19:20:05 <stevenknight> it doesn't have enough mindshare and we're not using any of its theoretic potential
107 19:20:17 <stevenknight> but that's a whole 'nother discussion...
108 19:20:24 <GregNoel> yes, later
109 19:20:32 <garyo-home> interesting opinion: I was thinking of using it at work as a test fwk.
110 19:20:39 <garyo-home> ok, I'll defer that q.
111 19:20:36 <bdbaddog> well besides wanting to get rid of it, will tests work better if it's installed?
112 19:20:43 <garyo-home> I'll do vs2005 and vs2003 by tomorrow and report the results, does that help?
113 19:20:53 <stevenknight> garyo-home: yes, very much
114 19:20:58 <GregNoel> garyo-home ++
115 19:20:55 <bdbaddog> I have a VS2008express machine.
116 19:21:04 <stevenknight> bdbaddog++ too
117 19:21:33 <garyo-home> my buildbot crashed, sorry, I'm restarting it now.
118 19:22:00 <stevenknight> good news is that vs_revamp does look like it clears up the few remaining test failures i had on trunk
119 19:22:09 <stevenknight> so we should have green buildbots on Windows once it lands
120 19:21:50 <bdbaddog> Steven u have room for the dual quad core?
121 19:22:22 <stevenknight> bdbaddog: ooh, tempting
122 19:22:23 <stevenknight> i might
123 19:22:26 <stevenknight> how big is the case?
124 19:22:37 <bdbaddog> hmm more or less full size tower.
125 19:23:11 <stevenknight> does it have a wifi card? it wouldn't be close to my router
126 19:23:13 <bdbaddog> I can send you dimensions if you need them..;) dell poweredge sc1430 I think.
127 19:23:16 <bdbaddog> no wifi.
128 19:23:20 <bdbaddog> can get one.
129 19:23:21 <stevenknight> i could rustle one up i think
130 19:23:36 <stevenknight> let's sync up off line
131 19:24:31 <bdbaddog> k
132 19:24:18 <stevenknight> schedule: see if we can land vs_revamp on trunk by early next week?
133 19:24:43 <garyo-home> great w/ me.
134 19:24:54 <GregNoel> fine by me, although I don't use it
135 19:24:56 <garyo-home> I will see if I can try it on our real build too.
136 19:25:28 <stevenknight> cool
137 19:25:53 <bdbaddog> does this end up with the big delays that David mentioned on startup?
138 19:25:57 <stevenknight> just went and got my main windows laptop
139 19:26:10 <stevenknight> i have three test failures right now
140 19:26:15 <stevenknight> that don't show up on my system at work:
141 19:26:30 <stevenknight> src\engine\SCons\Tool\msvsTests.py
142 19:27:05 <stevenknight> --- issues w/retrieving default visual studio version on my home system
143 19:27:18 <garyo-home> msvsTests.py fails in the same way for me here.
144 19:27:24 <stevenknight> test\KeyboardInterrupt.py
145 19:27:31 <GregNoel> ouch
146 19:27:51 <stevenknight> -- not sure of cause yet
147 19:28:01 <stevenknight> test\option-j.py
148 19:28:01 <GregNoel> timing....
149 19:28:15 <garyo-home> KeyboardInterrupt fails reliably for me too here.
150 19:28:17 <GregNoel> also timing....
151 19:28:35 <stevenknight> possibly timing, not sure
152 19:28:34 <garyo-home> but it's not timing, it's looking for the mssdk. (?)
153 19:28:50 <stevenknight> sorry, test\option-j.py isn't timing
154 19:29:05 <stevenknight> it's in the part where it's testing fallback on Python versions that don't have threading
155 19:29:16 <stevenknight> which it does by dropping in a threading.py that just raises ImportError
156 19:29:16 <GregNoel> ah
157 19:29:16 <garyo-home> option-j fails w/ same stack trace as KeyboardInterrupt for me too.
158 19:29:37 <stevenknight> this interferes with the vs_revamp code that uses subprocess to try to execute the .bat script
159 19:29:45 <bdbaddog> do you guys have the activestate python, or python.org python?
160 19:29:46 <stevenknight> vcvars32.bat
161 19:29:49 <bdbaddog> and which versions?
162 19:30:02 <garyo-home> python.org, 2.5.2 for me
163 19:30:07 <stevenknight> python.org, 2.4.3
164 19:30:17 <bdbaddog> try swapping in activestate?
165 19:30:40 <stevenknight> that won't help test\option-j.py
166 19:30:41 <bdbaddog> which module is it trying to import?
167 19:30:49 <garyo-home> could do, but it needs to work on python.org too.
168 19:30:54 <stevenknight> threading.py
169 19:31:19 <garyo-home> Steven: I don't think my failures are the same. I'm seeing mssdk is not defined.
170 19:31:29 <stevenknight> this raises another issue, which is that vs_revamp's use of subprocess to get the info
171 19:32:01 <bdbaddog> import threading works find on activestate python 2.5.2
172 19:32:06 <stevenknight> means we won't work on Windows Pythons that aren't compiled with threading
173 19:32:14 <stevenknight> bdbaddog: it works fine for us, too
174 19:32:24 <bdbaddog> ahh o.k.
175 19:32:14 <GregNoel> (Note that there's a function in Action that wraps subprocess, if you can use it.)
176 19:32:32 <stevenknight> the issue is that test\option-j.py tries to force a test of falling back to working w/out threading
177 19:32:42 <stevenknight> by faking out the import with our own "module"
178 19:32:40 <garyo-home> Steven: my failure is at http://pastebin.com/d3a1654fd, is that same as yours or not?
179 19:33:16 <stevenknight> garyo-home: d'oh!
180 19:33:20 <garyo-home> import threading works for me too... ?
181 19:33:22 <stevenknight> no, those are other errors
182 19:33:47 <stevenknight> i was working them this morning, but didn't get a chance to check them in before leaving for work
183 19:33:51 <stevenknight> hang on...
184 19:34:34 <stevenknight> garyo-home: update and try again
185 19:34:50 <garyo-home> ok...
186 19:35:16 <garyo-home> option-j: now fails with your error ('threading' is not defined)
187 19:35:16 <stevenknight> i redid the SDK searching to add a new Tool/mssdk.py tool for independent discovery of the SDKs
188 19:35:25 <stevenknight> yeah
189 19:35:32 <stevenknight> i think we have to at least rewrite that test
190 19:35:53 <stevenknight> and decide that we're okay with requiring threading when SCons is run on Wiindows
191 19:36:30 <garyo-home> Well, I'm personally OK w/ it...
192 19:36:36 <stevenknight> since it seems threading is enabled in the python.org and activestate versions, that should be okay
193 19:37:09 <stevenknight> and people don't build custom Pythons on Windows as readily as they do for other platforms
194 19:37:19 <stevenknight> okay, I'll add a release note
195 19:37:37 <stevenknight> and a mention of it in the installation chapter of the User's Guide, too
196 19:37:50 <stevenknight> garyo-home: do you also get a test\KeyboardInterrupt.py failure after update?
197 19:38:20 <garyo-home> Good plan. now KeyboardInterrupt passes for me, I'm rerunning it to see if it passes twice, yes it passes both times.
198 19:38:32 <stevenknight> okay, i need to dig on that one
199 19:38:37 <stevenknight> it passes on my work system, too
200 19:39:09 <stevenknight> GregNoel's suggestion of timing is distinctly possible, my home system is kind of slow and under-powered
201 19:39:27 <garyo-home> Mine's zippy
202 19:40:38 <stevenknight> GregNoel: re: wrapping subprocess
203 19:40:42 <stevenknight> a la Action.py
204 19:40:51 <GregNoel> yes?
205 19:41:22 <stevenknight> hang on, interrupt...
206 19:41:46 * GregNoel is hanging, but the rope is beginning to dig into his neck...
207 19:42:08 <garyo-home> funny.
208 19:42:44 <stevenknight> yeah, that might be what we have to do
209 19:43:17 <stevenknight> the hassle is that it's an import inside subprocess
210 19:43:37 <stevenknight> and i was really hoping we'd be able to migrate to using subprocess directly
211 19:43:43 <stevenknight> instead of Yet Another wrapper of our own devising
212 19:43:59 <bdbaddog> for 2.0?
213 19:44:15 <stevenknight> threading requirement for 2.0? maybe
214 19:44:27 <stevenknight> well, except that vs_revamp is what needs this
215 19:44:42 <stevenknight> and that's the 1.3 pacing item
216 19:45:11 <GregNoel> (what's an import inside subprocess? I'm missing something)
217 19:45:19 <stevenknight> import threading
218 19:45:47 <GregNoel> wait a sec...
219 19:46:02 <stevenknight> on Windows, it uses threads to handle the async communication in things like _communicate()
220 19:46:41 <stevenknight> hmm....
221 19:46:49 <stevenknight> hmmm....
222 19:46:53 <GregNoel> I was checking to see if there was a name change, but not...
223 19:47:01 <stevenknight> hmmmm.....
224 19:47:35 <GregNoel> Go for more m&m's!
225 19:47:29 <stevenknight> i may be able to sidestep this
226 19:47:40 <stevenknight> the threading is only used inside communicate()
227 19:48:14 <stevenknight> but we don't need to actually use communicate() to get the output from vcvars32.bat
228 19:48:27 <stevenknight> because we're not feeding anything to stdin
229 19:48:35 <stevenknight> so I think it's actually overkill
230 19:48:41 <stevenknight> okay, we're beating this to death
231 19:48:45 <bdbaddog> :)
232 19:48:47 <stevenknight> i have a plan on test\option-j.py
233 19:49:08 <stevenknight> i also have to tackle test\KeyboardInterrupt.py since it only shows up on my system
234 19:49:24 <stevenknight> garyo-home, you can repro the msvsTests.py failures?
235 19:49:40 <stevenknight> even after update?
236 19:49:45 <garyo-home> yes. Want me to look into the cause?
237 19:49:59 <stevenknight> yeah, if you could tackle that, it'd be a definite help
238 19:50:29 <garyo-home> ok, will do.
239 19:50:37 <stevenknight> also both you and bdbaddog check if any other tests fail on any windows systems you have available
240 19:50:50 <bdbaddog> ok.
241 19:50:56 <bdbaddog> on vs_revamp right?
242 19:51:02 <GregNoel> (Hmmm... If communicate() is called with only one pipe, it acts synchronously; no threading.)
243 19:51:52 <stevenknight> aha
244 19:52:03 <stevenknight> bdbaddog: yes, branches/vs_revamp
245 19:53:01 <stevenknight> if we land it and release a checkpoint next week, then a 1.3 release candidate two weeks later, right?
246 19:53:12 <GregNoel> yes
247 19:53:47 <GregNoel> week of 23 Feb.
248 19:53:49 <stevenknight> so best bet, assuming Monday, yes, that puts us at... February 30th!
249 19:54:00 <stevenknight> for 1.3
250 19:54:04 <GregNoel> yes
251 19:54:25 <stevenknight> okay, that sounds like the plan of record, then
252 19:54:24 <GregNoel> We'll slide, but it's a nice theory.
253 19:54:30 <stevenknight> right
254 19:54:43 <stevenknight> on to 2005q1 then?
255 19:54:58 <GregNoel> I'm ready; 1064?
256 19:55:26 <GregNoel> Can't put any issues in 1.x any more, 2.x p4?
257 19:55:40 <stevenknight> 1064: yes, 2.x p4
258 19:55:51 <GregNoel> works
259 19:55:51 <stevenknight> (I filled these out a long time ago)
260 19:56:12 <garyo-home> ok
261 19:56:30 <stevenknight> 1065: 2.x p4 ?
262 19:56:36 <garyo-home> same.
263 19:56:37 <GregNoel> done
264 19:56:59 <stevenknight> 1074:
265 19:57:15 <stevenknight> i'll go with 2.x p4 tbd on this, too
266 19:57:23 <GregNoel> done
267 19:57:29 <garyo-home> ok
268 19:57:46 <stevenknight> 1078:
269 19:57:48 <stevenknight> sconf_revamp++
270 19:57:58 <GregNoel> 1078, 3.x p3
271 19:58:07 <stevenknight> done
272 19:58:18 <stevenknight> that'll give us nice incentive to move along from 2.0 to 3.0... :-)
273 19:58:59 <GregNoel> There's 100+ issues in 2.x; it'll take a while.
274 19:58:42 <stevenknight> btw, GregNoel, thanks for bolding the appropriate rows in the spreadsheet
275 19:58:55 <stevenknight> really helps the navigability
276 19:59:02 <GregNoel> np
277 19:59:31 <GregNoel> 1093
278 19:59:49 <stevenknight> "subst" keyword
279 20:00:12 <garyo-home> ok w/ that, prob 2.x?
280 20:00:25 <stevenknight> I'll add the keyword
281 20:00:30 <GregNoel> Sigh, I have a partial writeup of a wiki page discussing this, but it's nowhere near internally consistent enough to put out.
282 20:00:58 <stevenknight> 2.x sounds right
283 20:01:28 <stevenknight> p2?
284 20:01:33 <GregNoel> I'll buy 2.x p2
285 20:01:48 <garyo-home> sold
286 20:01:57 <stevenknight> done
287 20:02:02 <stevenknight> 1094:
288 20:02:12 <garyo-home> 1094 looks like Greg to dup it and untangle
289 20:02:14 <stevenknight> dup GregNoel
290 20:02:21 <GregNoel> Gary has a comment about the subst keyword later; we'll get to it below.
291 20:02:46 <GregNoel> 1094 2.x p4
292 20:02:59 <stevenknight> 1094: done
293 20:03:26 <stevenknight> 1098: i like the i18n keyword
294 20:03:35 <GregNoel> 1098 is nasty
295 20:03:39 <stevenknight> or unicode, whichever
296 20:03:42 <stevenknight> agreed re: nasty
297 20:04:00 <bdbaddog> 4.x
298 20:04:56 <garyo-home> unicode is more correct
299 20:05:16 <GregNoel> yes, unicode is not the same as i18n
300 20:05:03 <stevenknight> 1098: future, unicode keyword
301 20:05:45 <GregNoel> I hate to push it out that far, but I can't think of how to deal with it, either.
302 20:06:07 <stevenknight> agreed on both counts
303 20:06:06 <garyo-home> GSoC?
304 20:06:20 <GregNoel> garyo-home, hmmm...
305 20:06:30 <garyo-home> just a thought.
306 20:06:57 <stevenknight> hey, if the right brilliant student shows up
307 20:06:59 <GregNoel> I'll put it on my GSoC list and see if I can figure something out.
308 20:07:20 <stevenknight> i think we could write it up to sound like an attractive tough problem to solve
309 20:08:10 <GregNoel> We get so few students, I'd put other things as a higher priority, but it might be OK.
310 20:07:58 <stevenknight> have we reached consensus?
311 20:08:27 <GregNoel> no consensus I see; defer until next time?
312 20:08:34 <stevenknight> okay
313 20:09:06 <bdbaddog> I'd say make it future. We've not had a lot of request for this have we?
314 20:09:14 <bdbaddog> unicode that is.
315 20:09:37 <stevenknight> bdbaddog: we can go into more depth next week
316 20:09:46 <bdbaddog> k.
317 20:09:47 <GregNoel> It's because a filename has unicode characters in it.
318 20:09:01 <stevenknight> 1107: 2.1 p3
319 20:09:04 <stevenknight> and split into parts?
320 20:10:08 <GregNoel> 1107, I'll untangle it.
321 20:10:03 <garyo-home> What is the point of 1107?
322 20:10:30 <GregNoel> gcc -include xxx.h on the command line.
323 20:10:39 <garyo-home> oh, got it.
324 20:11:18 <GregNoel> 1107, I'll untangle it?
325 20:11:35 <bdbaddog> +1
326 20:11:36 <garyo-home> agree, you do that, then 2.x p3 for the parts?
327 20:11:46 <stevenknight> i'm okay with that
328 20:11:51 <stevenknight> or re-triaging the parts separately next week
329 20:11:50 <GregNoel> Or do we want me to try untangling it and review it next time?
330 20:12:00 <garyo-home> that's fine w/ me too.
331 20:12:05 <bdbaddog> +1 on untangle and retriage
332 20:12:08 <GregNoel> OK, I'll do that
333 20:12:28 <GregNoel> 1116, no clue
334 20:13:01 <garyo-home> 1116, it thinks there's going to be a .exp file but there isn't one.
335 20:13:21 <garyo-home> emitter bug in mingw, or mingw not clearing out some var from msvc most likely
336 20:13:44 <GregNoel> (Here's Gary's comment about what the subst keyword should cover.)
337 20:14:45 <garyo-home> 1116, not a huge prob because of easy workaround (you don't typically install all the files resulting from a SharedLibrary call anyway)
338 20:14:54 <garyo-home> 2.x p4 tbd?
339 20:15:06 <GregNoel> done
340 20:15:09 <stevenknight> done
341 20:15:26 <GregNoel> last one, 1126
342 20:15:31 <stevenknight> 1120?
343 20:15:52 <stevenknight> i think 1120 is what you meant re: gary's subst comment?
344 20:15:53 <GregNoel> Oops, I was one ahead
345 20:16:13 <stevenknight> 1120: 2.x p3 subst keyword?
346 20:16:15 <garyo-home> Yes. 1120, patch is pretty simple and non-intrusive
347 20:16:35 <garyo-home> It only does anything if the cmd ends with \
348 20:16:43 <GregNoel> Is Jim still around? Who should contact him?
349 20:17:03 <stevenknight> either you or me
350 20:17:14 <GregNoel> hmmm, you?
351 20:17:41 <stevenknight> okay
352 20:17:47 <GregNoel> I wrote him around Christmas and got no reply
353 20:18:17 <stevenknight> i'll check, and if i get no reply, too, then we should probably reassign
354 20:18:26 <GregNoel> concur
355 20:18:27 <stevenknight> actually, that's true for a number of people we haven't heard from
356 20:18:45 <stevenknight> but that's yet *another* topic for another time
357 20:18:53 <GregNoel> yes, I just heard from Ludwig; he's busy but hoping to spend some time on SCons
358 20:19:03 <garyo-home> Greg: good news.
359 20:18:42 <garyo-home> 1120: Anyone could do this one. Even the testcase should be easy.
360 20:19:16 <stevenknight> garyo-home: would 1120 be good for your spare-half-hour back burner?
361 20:19:35 <garyo-home> sure, why not. It's windows after all :-/
362 20:19:42 <stevenknight> okay
363 20:19:59 <GregNoel> done; what milestone and priority?
364 20:20:02 <stevenknight> 1120: 2.x p3 garyo-home subst keyword
365 20:20:07 <GregNoel> done
366 20:20:11 <garyo-home> good
367 20:20:17 <GregNoel> now the last one...
368 20:20:33 <stevenknight> 1126: agree w/Greg's plan
369 20:20:48 <stevenknight> merge w/2079
370 20:20:48 <GregNoel> done, and that's all
371 20:20:57 <stevenknight> okay, i have to run
372 20:21:02 <garyo-home> good job guys!
373 20:21:09 <bdbaddog> :)
374 20:21:17 <stevenknight> great that we're now well down below 50 to classify...
375 20:21:19 <GregNoel> Great job; we only have 2004 left now
376 20:21:22 <garyo-home> ok, I'll run my tests & get you results tomorrow.
377 20:21:27 <bdbaddog> ditto
378 20:21:33 <stevenknight> thanks
379 20:21:33 <bdbaddog> running now.
380 20:21:35 <GregNoel> G'night all
381 20:21:39 <garyo-home> night.
382 20:21:39 <bdbaddog> night
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385 20:21:49 <stevenknight> GregNoel: are you planning to add 2004 spreadsheets?
386 20:22:10 <GregNoel> Already have; info just not pushed over to scons.org yet.
387 20:22:22 <stevenknight> okay, i'll look for those
388 20:22:30 <stevenknight> thanks
389 20:22:34 <stevenknight> i have to run myself...
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